Never used the Makita compact tools though. Eric is a huge Cubs fans and no, he is not related to Chevy Chase. Speaking of compact, let’s jump into the Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review and see how this saw performs. I'm not planning on purchasing more tools in either platform (I know, famous last words) once I make my decision. No matter how good a 12v line is, it will never have the power of an 18v etc. The charger for your m18s will work for the m12, so you aren't adding a charger. March 21, 2017 in Power Tools. Â There is an A-Mode (assistÂ Mode). Big thank you to everyone who's posted. I'm not a big fan of Milwaukee but it's semantics at this point! Makita Sub-Compact gives users 12-Volt handling with 18-Volt run time and compatibility with the worlds largest 18-Volt lithium-ion cordless tool system. There is more plastic and aluminum making it lighter, but not as durable. The 1/2-inch drill-driver is 6-3/8-inch long, boasts a mechanical variable 2-speed transmission of 0-500 and 0-1,700 RPM, and weights 2.8 pounds including the 18V battery. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk. Is this common? aabee, The entire Sub-Compact lineup is designed to have the compact size and weight of 12-volt tools without forcing you away from Makita’s 18-volt battery. Makita Sub Compact Circular Saw Review Overview. Nice Review. I wanted sub-compact, but having 2 battery platforms sucks. Makita Subcompact Review – Final Thoughts. Pasted as rich text. As of this month their last addition/edition are the Sub compact “Hammer drills” — XPH11ZB and DHP483ZB. The M12 stuff is good, but heavy and the balance is odd. Lastly, Milwaukee has more sales and that leads to better deals on eBay for new tools sold from kit splitters. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5, 000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. So here is the deal, a while back we reviewed this Makita combo set which you can find here. You can post now and register later. So does this spell the end for the 12-volt tool class? But it depends on what tools you want. If you were to pick up these tools, I promise you that your first thoughts would be they feel good and they are cool, but won’t perform much work. Any operator can surely make the most of this tool as it spends more time working than sitting on the charger. The feel in the hand is awesome. × Â The drill offersÂ 350 in.lbs. The XBP05ZB is a sub-compact cutting solution designed for one-handed operation in tight spaces and overhead cutting applications. Your link has been automatically embedded. It also includes two BL1820B 18V LXT Lithium-Ion compact 2.0Ah batteries and the DC18RC Rapid Optimum Charger. These tools are compact, lightweight and offer plenty of power. I know this is like comparing apples to oranges but I’m looking for a high quality drill for my home projects. The drill is only 6-3/8″ long and remember this is an 18V, pretty impressive. I bought the set for my dad for $200 from HD, which is the present price. Â I still like cases for my tools. if you can wait id hold off for a few months to see what else they will bring out. The drill offers 2 speeds (0-500 & 0-1,700 RPM) and the impact offersÂ (0-1,300/0-3,000 RPM). Milwaukee has a sale at my Home Depot where the 12v Fuel is $169, while Makita's sub-compact kit comes with a free third battery for $229. The 18V Sub-Compact Hammer Driver-Drill is part of a new class of compact, with the size and weight of lower voltage tools but with the performance, power and compatibility of 18-Volt. 4 lbs. LXT® Compact delivers outstanding performance without the bulkiness and weight of the typical cordless tool offered by competitors. Lots of power for the size tool. This isn't to say the Fuel isn't good (it certainly is), but I knew I made the right decision the minute I sank my first screw. La Mirada, CA – Makita® has created a new class in cordless tools with the release of 18V LXT® Sub-Compact Brushless. Thank you! Both Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Drill-Driver and Impact Driver have dual LED worklights, rubberized soft grip handles, and Makita’s BL brushless motors. Â Amazing for an 18V system. If you need a simple comparison, I can give you my personal experience and observations. Â A ton of speed and power for most daily applications. Just wanted to get some opinions on which way to go between the 12v brushless Fuel impact/hammer drill combo kit by Milwaukee and Makita's 18v brushless sub-compact drill/impact combo. if so go Makita. They’re not going to crank out the same type of speed and power as most compact 18V drills, but they’re incredibly handy tools to have when you want 12V size without leaving Makita’s 18V battery. They were groundbreaking when they were released but their size hasn't aged well. Â If you want compact to go with a 12V. Balance is a little off, but nothing bad enough to worry about. and length of 7.25 inches, it can deliver as much as 480 in. Plus the assist mode is actually quite quiet. Chuck for wobble too! At least the ones I have. Like I said in the intro, you’re going to see a ton more sub-compact models from Makita this year, like the Sub-Compact LXT Reciprocating Saw I used on the Built In Closet project. The new 18V LXT Sub-Compact Brushless includes the most compact and lightest weight tools in the 18V category, giving contractors the size and handling of a 12-volt tool with the performance, power and compatibility of 18 volt. How can you even sleep at night Makita? I friggin' love it. Tools in Action I'm slightly leaning Makita to begin with. The Makita 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit is the perfect – and right now, only – solution for the Pro who insists on carrying both heavy-duty and truly compact cordless tools every day without having to buy into a separate battery platform. I own the Milwaukees but I do like Makita...I'd get the Milwaukee, the tools are comparable, though the Makita (I believe) is smaller. Â These tools are awesome. Â I tried hard to find something I don’t like about them, but even with a low price tag, it’s hard to beat. It will be for only these kits. Great balance and grip feel. Everything that I own that's teal (or black as is my newest acquisition) is well made, well constructed and exceeds all of my expectations. This drill/driver sits in between their regular premium line and the sub-compact. I had the Fuel and now have the Makita subcompact. I like my M12 stuff but the Fuel M12 stuff isn't very compact anymore comparatively. Makita has the advantage with a length that’s nearly 4″ shorter than Skil and close to an inch shorter than DeWalt. The assist mode is friggin phenomenal for touch up work but will drive large fasteners easily. One thing I've already noticed with the Fuel is the chuck spins. While all manufacturers have a compact drill on the market, I can’t find one that competes with the Makita. i dont have a problem at all with my m12 fuel system, i have five tools inside a milwaukee hard case along with four lights, two chargers and a bunch of batteries.cant do that with my 18 volt dewalt system. The compact size combined with the Makita-built brushless motor delivers up to 5,000 RPM and a superior power-to-weight ratio. In addition to having better ergonomics, I've found that the drill is superior (non-spinning chuck, shorter length) and the impact is as well (assist mode, slightly higher torque). Makita XRH06ZB 18V LXT Lithium-Ion Sub-Compact Brushless Cordless 11/16" Rotary Hammer, Accepts Sds-Plus Bits, Tool Only 4.7 out of 5 stars 82 $229.00 $ 229 . i like to feel the tool in my hand, maufactures are being pressed so hard to make things lighter and smaller, some of the new tools i pick up today are so light, that they feel really cheap, thats not for me, but thats me talking. I was gonna say... 18v Makita lineup is pretty big too. Much better than the impact for overall performance. The hammer function on the m12 Fuel is nice to have but keep in mind that it isn't close to being as good as a m18 hammer functionality...so that difference is relatively moot. They seem to be clearing out a lot of M12 stuff. You cannot paste images directly. Square Drive Impact Wrench Kit is ideal for working in tight spaces and for overhead applications. If you aren’t familiar with them, the sub-compact line is a smaller tool, that packs a powerful punch and still uses their 18V battery. Makita ; Compact vs Regular Sign in to follow this . Makita Sub-Compact Drill / Driver & Impact Driver – Get a Grip on the Ergonomics Comfortable ergo with a compact form-factor make the Makita Sub-Compact tools feel like a natural extension of your hand. Makita Sub-Compact Drill XFD11ZB. Re: Hitachi, they're indeed killing it of late; their Triple Hammer is my Rolls Royce of power tools. Dewalt Combo Kit Review – 20V Drill & Impact, Makita Combo Kit Review – Drill Driver and Impact Driver, Milwaukee Drill Driver Revisit Plus Impact Driver. Makita XSH04ZB LXt Sub-compact Cordless Circular Saw. Basically comes down to the grip you prefer, the batteries you have and whether the one-handed bit change is worth having 2.5 speeds instead of 4 (come on; the 887 precision mode doesn't really count for much lol). (with 18-Volt LXT Compact 2.0 Ah battery). Makita finishes with a slight advantage over Skil in the overall size race. I love the Milwaukee M12 Fuel tools. I reached out to Milwaukee via their Facebook page and asked them when/if they'd be releasing more compact M12 fasteners a few weeks ago, and they told me nothing was in the works. saw, as well as Hitachi's Triple Hammer, so I'm not looking to expand much (if at all) in either the Milwaukee 12v or the Makita 18v (knock on wood). If Makita wanted to, I think they could have charged a premium and gotten away with it. The only major flaw is the lack of a hammer option. Makita created a new class in cordless with Makita created a new class in cordless with 18-Volt LXT Sub-Compact tools. CATERPILLAR 598 CATERPILLAR 598 Tool Extraordinaire; Members; 598 … That stinks you have to wait. the feel of the m12 along with the build quality is what sold me on the system. Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Performance, size and weight is practically indistinguishable on these two units. Batteries have the fuel gauge so you don't need the tool to see capacity. I don’t think so. While he loves remodeling his house, his passion is spending time with his wife and two children. Paste as plain text instead, × Torque is great considering the size. Makita XFD10R 18V Compact Lithium-Ion Cordless Driver Drill Kit On the other side of the fence, we have a brushed cordless driver drill from Makita that produces incredible strength for its size. The chuck has a nice ratchet feel, doesn't loosen either. Large selection of 12 volt tools by Milwaukee also. I already have Milwaukee's surge/hammer drill 18v combo and a Fuel circ. The 36v is a good selling point on the Makitas. Especially if you like impact drivers lol. http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. but that weight can be a good thing too.I dont know,, i just have a problem with tools that defy gravity. These tool offer power of an 18V, but the size of a 12V tool. Â Not a bad deal to jump into a huge platform with two nice tools to start out with. I’ve been looking at some of the smaller drills and after a lot of debate I think 12v will work for me. (with 18V LXT Compact 2.0Ah battery). Stay up to Date on Tool Reviews, Tool News and More. The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6. Â At The Home Depot, you can pick this kit up for about $240 which includes the drill, impact, two 2Ah batteries, a charger and a bag. Makita CX200RB 18V LXT Sub-Compact Combo Kit. if so go Milwaukee. The expansive breadth-of-line of the Makita 18-Volt LXT® Series means an 18-Volt battery from any LXT® tool will power the 18-Volt Sub-Compact Impact Driver. I'm going to go with the Makita. Speaking of weight, I like the larger base of the 18v compared to the torpedo-style batteries. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I have the brushless barrel grip 18v jigsaw, their new brushless 18v recip, the brushless 18v sander and the new compact impact gun. It's awesome. I also found the grip of the M12 fuel to be a bit small and odd fitting. Two-Handed: Makita 18V LXT Brushless Sub-Compact Reciprocating Saw. There are several 12-volt tool lines available that deliver high enough performance to be legiti… That new compact gun is awesome! Aaron, I don't have a lot of Makita tools but the ones I do own are wonderful tools. Â The tools are designed with an incredibleÂ feel to them. The drill is lightweight and feels great in your hands. and they told me that this drill will be available in a kit-form (with impactor) later this year. The only reason to buy the Milwaukee is practicality, there's a huge m12 lineup. Both of them are great tools. Great review I just ran across this page. If you were blindfolded and you picked up these tools, you would assume they were 12V tools, they are that small and lightweight. Â When on this setting the tool controls itself to help eliminate cam out and cross threading by driving at low speeds. Plus Enter to Win Future Tool Giveaways! But it was one of those things where you couldn’t have power and compact. I've been using my 18v jigsaw for the last several weeks and though it ain't my Carvex it's an awesome portable saw. I didn't even put a bit in it; it continues to spin after I release the trigger for a second or two, and this happens on both the 1st and 2nd gear. Compact vs Regular. Powered by Invision Community, M12 fuel combo for 169 at HD, great price there, Opinions needed (Makita 18v Subcompact vs. Milwaukee 12v Fuel), http://www.homedepot.com/s/milwaukee%20m12%20free?NCNI-5. Sub-Compact Cutting and Ripping The Sub-Compact 6-1/2” Circular Saw has a compact and ergonomic design at only 10-5/8” and 6.4 lbs. Keep posting in this thread though, as I'm sure others are likely in the same boat with both promotions going on! For me it was simple. It's very clacky sounding too. The Makita is a much bigger line for their 18V tools and I really like how I can use one battery platform with the Makita. But I'm just looking for something compact at the moment, and there isn't anything planned there and their 12v line is weak akin to DeWalt but with marginally better support. I’m a DIYer but want quality features and long lasting performance. The CX200RB combo kit contains the XFD11ZB compact drill/driver and the XDT15ZB impact driver. Just used the sub-compact 18v impact driver today. I've also got the brushless grinder and the 36v chainsaw. So here is our Makita Subcompact Review. Upload or insert images from URL. You have entered an incorrect email address! They're set up that way (I'm assuming) so they can stand up with the smaller batteries but they just feel off when drilling and driving as I'm used to the 90 degree angles instead of the 45. Â The 2Ah batteries provide ampleÂ run time and won’t die out even when fasteningÂ 3″ screws. The big deal surrounding the new Makita Sub-Compact Circular Saw involves its combination of performance and size.